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Super Bowl LI Squares (2017)


It’s back - by popular demand (honestly)!

So this year as I did last year I have gone digital and now my Super Bowl Squares grids can be viewed online (link can be found here):

Super Bowl Squares - S/B 51 (£5 Grid)

So this is how it works - I have a grid with a 100 squares on - each costs £5@square and total prize fund is £400. I don’t hide anything so yes as you can see 20% of the money collected in goes to the house/me - assuming I sell out the grid in full which is by no means a given. However I do guarantee the prizes and so take a substantial risk as if I can not generate the sales then I can be seriously out of pocket as I will be funding the prize money from my own pocket. For example I ran 3 x £1 Squares grids on the 3 Thanks Giving Day games this season - as a bunch of people from TFP was meeting in London to watch the games together, so I decided for a little added fun to run some squares grids on each of the games. Alas people online didn’t seem all that interested to have a go so mainly only people on the night bought them. This left many unsold squares on each games grid (which I as the house had to put in for). Alas (for me) most of the eventual winning squares turned out to be ones that were sold - meaning I had to pay out more money than I collected in. So when all was said and done I was just over I think about £40 out of pocket over the three games - ouch (but could of been far worse)! But as I said I stand by my games and hence guarantee the prizes - no quibbles. So for this reason as well as all the time spent making these game grids up (both a physical sheet and online version), plugging them plus trying to explain how the game actually works via video and verbally in person along with the added risk of actually losing money I feel it’s only right to mitigate that with a 20% house edge from this years squares game.

Now that’s out of the way lets move on with the game mechanics - I know some of you might not like to read loads of type so I will make up a video showing you me randomly numbering this years grid and then explaining how the game works. Link to this YouTube video can be found here:

Just so you know it’s pure random luck - there is no skill in this game what so ever.

Now as I won’t see most people in person have adapted the way I run my squares grids as follows to make it random - I have numbered every square on this grid from 201 - 300. That is to match the raffle tickets in books I bought from Tesco’s for past games. The reason for the high numbers is I am working through the tickets in the raffle books but it’s still just 100 squares (numbers) in total.

I have placed all the raffle tickets in a bag.

Now this is the clever bit and how you can know what your numbers are as soon as you have bought some squares (and if I was on the ball could of started selling the squares before the Super Bowl teams were even known).

This is because normally in squares you would sell all the squares before numbering the grid randomly in front of a witness. However by using the raffle ticket system means I can randomly number the grid up before selling any squares. The raffle tickets are what still makes it random as to what numbers you end up with. I numbered the grids randomly by using playing cards - I actually filmed myself doing this (link above) and you can watch that video on You Tube to see this being done. I did this by taking an Ace (representing 1) thru to 10 (representing zero) from a pack of playing cards - I shuffled them up and then started to turn them over and as I did so I numbered across the top of the grid the columns in the order the cards came out - which represent the AFC teams numbers. I then repeated this process for the rows which represents the NFC teams numbers (down the side).

Now I can start selling squares to both people I see in person and people I do not. No one gets to pick their own numbers on the grid - they select a raffle ticket from the bag - or a proxy does this on their behalf (most likely a work colleague or personal friend of mine). The raffle ticket corresponds to the same numbered square on the grid and that becomes their square - they write their name in the square - or a proxy does on their behalf if they are not present. If I know their TFP forum name that will be used on the online grid (but will also keep a separate note myself - the physical sheet - of who each entrants real name is so I can pay out the correct winners after the Super Bowl itself).

Doing it this way means people can know their squares numbers as soon as they have drawn them - or a proxy has on their behalf. The reason this can be done even before the actual Super Bowl teams are known is because the AFC team always goes on the top of the grid - so is represented by the column numbers and the NFC team goes down the side so is always represented by the row numbers. The good thing is people can know every ones numbers - not just their own - as soon as I update the on-line grids to match my physical squares grid (which I will do each evening leading up to the Super Bowl).

This should make the game more fun for everyone who partakes as if you follow the game scores live during the Super Bowl you can check the grid online (and the photograph of the physical grid I will load up to TFP on the day) to see who’s square it’s currently on with every score - rather than just knowing your own numbers needed to win. The reason for the physical sheet is this will allow me to sell more squares right up until almost kick off should I need to and if I am unable to edit my online grid remotely from my phone while out I can still take a picture of the physical grid and load it up to TFP before kick off so that anyone can view not only their numbers but everybody’s there. However if I sell all the squares before Super Bowl Sunday itself I can fully update the online grid before setting off for London on the day itself.

Using the raffle ticket system insures no one gets to pick their squares numbers - it’s all still random luck what numbers you get and again is down to the actual scores in the real game itself at the predesignated winning points - so even more luck as to which squares actually win.

In case you don’t understand how the game works here’s a snyposis:-

The grid has a 100 squares, of which I randomly numbered the columns and rows by using playing cards (explained above).

Across the top (when known) goes the AFC team (columns), down the side goes the NFC team (rows). The scores at the end of the first 3 quarters and the final result of the game (to cover the eventuality of O.T.) decides the wining boxes. Every score in the game changes the winning box and what box it’s on at those predetermined points of the game (end of the first 3 quarters and final game score) wins the prize for that point.

the prizes this year are:-

1st QTR - £100
2nd QTR - £100
3rd QTR - £100
FINAL - £100

Now this is how the winning squares are determined.


If the score at the end of the first Quarter is AFC team 10, NFC team 3 you would go to AFC column zero (0 - because you just take the last digit of the teams scores) and NFC row 3 and where the two meet on the grid is the winning box for that Qtr. and this is how it works for the whole game. In effect (and it has happened) the same box can win more than one prize.

I first encountered this game on the champ train from Chicago to Champaign, Ilionis the season the Bears played at the University of Ilionis stadium while Soldier Field was being renovated. I got them to teach me how it worked as it was nothing like what we run on our sports here in the UK. There they do it in office pools and in bars or what have you on regular season games - or any games if there’s enough punters - however they do it for bigger bucks $10 or $20 a square. NICE :slight_smile:

In the past here in the UK I have found it a real headache selling all the boxes so was not going to run a grid this year but after several enquiries from people who enjoyed the game last year have relented and hoping via the internet I can sell all or at least a good percentage of the squares this time.

Payment & prize pay outs - anyone I don’t see in my day to day life - so 99% of all TFP forum members I ask to contact me by PM and we can discuss ways to pay - most likely send me a cheque if there’s time or we can use other means. I will contact all winners again to discuss best way to pay you out if I don’t see you in person. Most likely once I have sobered up towards the end of Monday when I wake up.

So if after reading all that you are willing to have a go I urge you to buy squares sooner rather than later so I can sell the grid out in plenty of time to have the online version fully completed before the big night itself. When you contact me to enter if your a TFP member I would greatly appreciate you telling me your username on TFP as I will use that on the online grid when possible (as others will more likely know you by your username I think). However on the physical grid I will use peoples real names.

That’s it - now it’s over to you peeps - you just have to ask yourself ‘DO YOU FEEL LUCKY’?

best regards,

Noel (bluelionman)

PS If you have money on a/c with me and want any squares just reply to this e-mail stating how many squares you want and I’ll take it out of those funds.

Also please spread the word about this game - tell your mates - as it could increase your enjoyment of the Super Bowl wherever your watching it with a bit of added spice on the game.

I’ve sent you a tenner

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Nice one - got it - just proxying your squares now.

hello from australia, im dale_elleray, mostly known as ( GREATWHITEDALE ) in fantasy games all over the world, goodluck everyone, i managed to get day off, so bring on the superbowl, going to be massive, should be high scoring, no DEFENCE orientated teams in this one. hoping for scoring to end in 3 every quarter lol


Hi dale and welcome

Bit early for betting big on S/B am sure some on here be betting on the outright winner but think your find more chatter in the Bets thread on here… lots of TFP members like a punt especially on NFL.

For my sins I done my bollocks on a S/B few seasons back - the one between the Seahawks & Patriots! :rage: